Do you dread assigning client homework, knowing it will likely stall your case for weeks or even months? Chasing down questionnaires and documents from clients can feel like a never-ending battle, leaving you frustrated and resentful.
After years of working with law firms to improve their workflows, I’ve discovered that the client homework bottleneck isn’t actually about the clients – it’s about how we structure and support the assignments. In this episode, I’m sharing my proven six-part framework for optimizing client homework. Tune in because these techniques will help you get unstuck and achieve a more predictable, efficient flow of work, creating a better experience for both your firm and your clients.
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Every lawyer I know gets frustrated by client homework.
John Grant:You send that carefully crafted questionnaire or document checklist to your client, and then crickets.
John Grant:Days pass, weeks pass, the case stalls.
John Grant:You find yourself or your team spending more time chasing the dang homework assignments than working on the actual matter.
John Grant:And after a while, it's easy to fall into resentment, blaming the client for not taking their matter seriously or feeling powerless to move things forward, maybe even becoming sort of disenchanted from that particular matter itself.
John Grant:After a decade of helping law firms improve their workflows, I've seen firsthand that client homework phases are one of the most common and one of the most sticky bottlenecks in almost any legal practice.
John Grant:But I've also discovered something fascinating.
John Grant:The client homework bottleneck isn't actually about the clients.
John Grant:It's about how we assign and structure and support the assignments.
John Grant:I've developed a set of techniques that has helped dozens of firms dramatically improve their homework return rates while strengthening client relationships in the process.
John Grant:And today I'm going to share them with you.
John Grant:You are listening to the Agile Attorney podcast.
John Grant:I'm John Grant, and it's my mission to help legal professionals of all kinds build practices that are profitable, sustainable, and scalable for themselves and the communities they serve.
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John Grant:I am excited to talk about this topic.
John Grant:It's something I've given a lot of thought to, and I have actually seen a lot of success with a lot of my clients when they implement these techniques that I'm about to introduce in more detail to you.
John Grant:It kind of came up partly from the conversation I had last week with Tim Lennon about action without action or effortless action, which was the Taoist concept of Wei Wu Wei.
John Grant:As I said in the intro to this podcast, I've seen over and over again how the place where a law firm's work gets stuck in the lawyer's workflow is some form of client homework phase.
John Grant:Either information gathering that you need in order to do your work, or getting the client to review and sign off on your work product.
John Grant:And in last week's episode with Tim, I specifically brought up the anti pattern of fence chucking, or you're throwing poorly defined tasks into somebody else's court as a way of of getting them off your plate.
John Grant:And I think that happens a lot with client homework.
John Grant:It happens in other places of your practice too.
John Grant:But I'm going to focus on client homework for today.
John Grant:And if you recall, Tim and I discussed how this sort of fence checking might feel efficient in the moment because you just need to reclaim your capacity.
John Grant:But in reality it's likely going to create a bunch of failure demand or additional tasks that arise like follow ups or answering obvious questions, or dealing with poorly completed assignments that wind up making fence chucking far less efficient over time because you have to do more work to get the thing actually done.
John Grant:So in this episode I'm going to build on a lot of concepts from several other episodes and all of these are going to be in the show notes, so don't feel like you need to keep mental track of them.
John Grant:But I'm going to rattle them off because I think you might find it useful to go back and review some of these concepts after you finish this episode.
John Grant:I'm going to start with Bottleneck Theory, which I first explained back in episode three, but also discussed with the author of one of my favorite books on bottleneck theory, Clark ching.
John Grant:In episode 39.
John Grant:I mentioned failure Demand a moment ago, and I do a deeper dive on that concept in episode seven, which is titled the Kingman's Formula and the Law Firm Freeway.
John Grant:And I actually first introduced some of the high level concepts around this client homework tool set in episode 36, which is what to do when I'm the bottleneck.
John Grant:And that's of other tools for you to use when work for the firm or your practice is constantly queuing up in your personal to do list or inbox.
John Grant:But again, for this episode I want to really focus on the bottleneck and the frustration that a lot of attorneys and their teams feel specifically around these client homework assignments.
John Grant:So let's start by taking a step back and sort of trying to view the homework assignment from an attorney or an attorney's through the lens of the client, right?
John Grant:What is going on in their life, in their minds when they're receiving a homework assignment from you, their lawyer, or someone on your team.
John Grant:And let's start from the reality that your clients are probably just as overworked and over busy and over scheduled as everyone else in modern society, right?
John Grant:We are in this crazy time of humanity where there just are so many different demands on our time and attention that it feels hard for everybody to get them all done.
John Grant:And without diving too deep into like the woes of modern life, just recognize that there are a lot of really powerful and well researched interests that are trying to fragment people's attention and basically use all of the great sort of scientific research around brain science and behavioral economics and other things to get get people to do things that the companies want them to do.
John Grant:Obviously, there's advertising is all about that.
John Grant:Social media and the app economy is full of dings and boops and red dots and other sort of forms of gamification that are designed to hack people's sort of brain chemistry into paying attention to the things that the company wants you to pay attention to.
John Grant:Right?
John Grant:The outside force wants you to pay attention to, as opposed to those things that internally you sort of find important or you're trying to get done in that day.
John Grant:And I know you all feel that.
John Grant:I feel that your clients are feeling that as well.
John Grant:So, frankly, part of your job and part of your challenge when you are sort of trying to get the attention of your clients is you're competing with all of the other things going on in their world and competing for their time and attention and brain space.
John Grant:Now, layer on top of that, the fact that, number one, most of your clients probably aren't super familiar with the types of requests that you need.
John Grant:So they're dealing in something new and uncertain and unfamiliar.
John Grant:Therefore, it's going to be an even higher cognitive load for them to figure out exactly what it is that you're asking, what they need to do, what their actual action items are.
John Grant:And then, of course, to make it even worse for most of you, you know, most clients aren't working with an attorney for fun or for pleasure.
John Grant:Right?
John Grant:These are people that are in a tough situation of some form or another, or even if it's something that is a little bit more happy.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:Forming a business or doing things like that, it still isn't going to be as sort of rewarding in an instant way as the dopamine squirt things around games or shopping or stuff like that.
John Grant:And so not only are people naturally going to want to procrastinate these unfamiliar and uncomfortable items, they're going to easily find other things they can do with their time and capacity that will allow them to procrastinate.
John Grant:Right?
John Grant:There are things they would rather be doing they get better signals from.
John Grant:One of the things I will sometimes talk about with my clients is that your clients are operating in a high FUD environment.
John Grant:And FUD is an acronym that is short for fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.
John Grant:And it creates almost emotional barriers inside people's head that block their engagement, that lead to procrastination, that are driving up stress and making it hard for people to do even what they know they need to do.
John Grant:Because there's these other things that are kind of hijacking their nervous system that get in the way.
John Grant:So how do we get around that, well, I've got sort of a six part model and you don't have to do all six parts.
John Grant:I think they tend to be cumulative.
John Grant:The stuff I'm going to talk about in the early phases is stuff that you can do on a standalone.
John Grant:And if that's all you do is, you know, part one or part two of this sort of tool set, that's going to be fine.
John Grant:You're going to get some great benefit from it.
John Grant:But as I'll talk about a little bit later, they really do work well when you start to layer them together and sort of present the whole thing as a package.
John Grant:So don't feel pressure to get it perfect, just get started.
John Grant:But I do think that starting to do some of these things in your practice is going to make a difference.
John Grant:All right, so the first part of this model is to be really strategic about using due dates every time you give a client a homework assignment or negotiate a homework assignment with them, as I'll talk about more in a minute.
John Grant:So the first anti pattern is when I see lawyers or legal teams sort of assigning client homework or asking for something from a client with no due date at all.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:Get this back to us when you can.
John Grant:And I see that a lot.
John Grant:I understand sort of where people are coming from when they do it.
John Grant:But it is a terrible, terrible idea.
John Grant:Right?
John Grant:It is the best way to make sure that someone has permission effectively to procrastinate to infinity on this particular assignment.
John Grant:It means that you're going to almost certainly have to follow up and nag them at some point.
John Grant:So part one of this step is to just always set due dates.
John Grant:Part two is to set, whenever possible, the shortest due date you can get away with.
John Grant:And this is important, right?
John Grant:So my general rule of thumb is you should never assign client homework further into the future than three days.
John Grant:Now, that probably seems crazy short to you, but also when we talk about it in context with some of these other techniques, it can be really, really effective.
John Grant:So here's why.
John Grant:First and foremost, it creates a sense of urgency.
John Grant:And that's helpful, right?
John Grant:You want to encourage speed, you want to encourage predictability in the flow of work through your practice.
John Grant:And setting a three day turnaround time is a great way to begin that process.
John Grant:Also, when you're asking people to commit a certain amount of their finite time and attention, they have a pretty good sense of what's on their plate over the next three days.
John Grant:Once you get further into the future than that, then you know they know what they need to do to an extent, but it becomes more and more vague.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:It's a hazier notion.
John Grant:It's not a solid notion.
John Grant:Most people are able to sort of carry their commitments for the next few days in their heads.
John Grant:Now that sort of information decay comes in in another way, which is if you can actually get the client to commit to this three day turnaround, they're going to have the information that you've given them, the context for the homework assignment, really fresh in their heads.
John Grant:Whereas if you go with longer and longer turnaround times, then the information they have both about what it is that they're supposed to do and why it's important that they do it is going to start to decay over time.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:I sometimes say that information like that has a half life and the shorter you can get people to engage with it, the better and the fresher they're going to be in terms of formulating their response.
John Grant:Now, I don't recommend using three days as a draconian rule.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:It is not a one size fits all in a lot of ways.
John Grant:It's sort of the opening salvo in a negotiation around this duty.
John Grant:And I actually think that's a really good way to create engagement with the client and make it more likely that they're going to turn this work around.
John Grant:So when we talk about negotiating due dates, I would say, you know, again, whatever the homework assignment is, I need you to fill out my questionnaire, I need you to review these drafts.
John Grant:I'd really like it if you could get this back to me by the end of the day Friday, right.
John Grant:Or whatever three days from now is, and then pause for a minute and ask the question, is that realistic for you?
John Grant:Then just wait, let the client answer that question.
John Grant:Right?
John Grant:They need a minute to sort of wrestle, to sort of go through what all of their other commitments are going to be over the next few days and figure out whether that's realistic or not.
John Grant:Either way, by asking that question, is this realistic for you?
John Grant:Part of what you're doing is getting commitment from the client.
John Grant:And so if the client says yes, that's realistic, then great, you have just gotten a commitment from them that they're going to turn this around in your three day time frame.
John Grant:If they say no, no problem, you say, hey, I get it, we're all busy, no big deal.
John Grant:But I really do need this from you.
John Grant:How soon do you think you can turn this around?
John Grant:Now, that's a very specific formulation of this question, right?
John Grant:I'm not asking when can you turn this around?
John Grant:Because that sort of puts things out into the future.
John Grant:I want you to ask, how soon can you turn this around?
John Grant:And then again, let the client wrestle with it.
John Grant:Give them a minute to think.
John Grant:Most of the time they're going to come up with an answer that is maybe five days out or maybe seven days out, whatever it happens to be, that's going to be fine for you.
John Grant:Because again, unless there's like a really true deadline, right, that you're going to miss something or there's going to be a consequence, these due dates are a little bit arbitrary.
John Grant:But the most important thing is that the client give you a commitment that again, they're going to feel obliged to stick to.
John Grant:That doesn't mean 100% that they are going to stick to it.
John Grant:But you're starting to sort of lay the foundation for making sure that they turn that around in the time that they said they're going to turn it around, not that you said they need to turn it around.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:You're going with their intrinsic motivation, not your sort of extrinsic dangling of either carrots or sticks.
John Grant:Now, obviously if they say, hey, I can't do this for three months, then you need to have a different conversation about whether you should actually be doing this work for them right now.
John Grant:But I think that's going to be the exception more than the rule.
John Grant:Now, one other part to this practice, and I maybe assumed it was happening this way, and I should call this out explicitly, is that you should be doing these homework assignments or these requests for client work, ideally in a one to one conversation.
John Grant:So in person, if they happen to be in your office over the phone or a video call is the best way.
John Grant:I really want you to avoid doing them over email because you can't have conversations over email.
John Grant:Every thing you put out there to them is just another thing in their inbox.
John Grant:There's going to be pauses and delays and the back and forth just takes too long.
John Grant:So if you're going to be assigning homework or again, requesting things from your client, I really, really encourage you or someone on your team to pick up the phone and do it in a one to one way where you can actually do this negotiation as opposed to using email, which is a whole other set of obligations and problems that I won't dive into right now.
John Grant:Now I also want to acknowledge, and this actually came up for me very specifically in a workshop I did a couple of weeks ago where one of the attorneys was really frank and she said, I can't give people short deadlines because I can't commit to short deadlines myself.
John Grant:I feel like a hypocrite if I'm going to give my client a short deadline and I can't turn it back around on its own.
John Grant:Short deadlines and look, I get that 100%.
John Grant:I don't like feeling like a hypocrite.
John Grant:I know you don't want to feel like a hypocrite.
John Grant:And what she's really saying is, I'm so over capacity, right?
John Grant:I am already so overburdened with my work that I don't want stuff coming back onto my plate so quickly.
John Grant:I need it to live in this uncertain place of the client owes it to me as a way of managing my own demands and my own timeframe.
John Grant:So I get it.
John Grant:It's human.
John Grant:It's 100% natural.
John Grant:I'm going to really strongly encourage you not to do this.
John Grant:And even if it means being hypocritical for a little while, the solution to this problem isn't to let the homework sort of sit in.
John Grant:This back eddy of the client owes it to me.
John Grant:Right?
John Grant:Which is the antithesis of flow to your system.
John Grant:We're going for flow.
John Grant:The real answer is to get your capacity in line so that you actually can deliver the work.
John Grant:And this is less about building your capacity and more about managing your demands on it.
John Grant:I really like this technique whenever possible in the context of an intake pause, right?
John Grant:We're trying to sort of slow down new sources of demand or new commitments that you're making with your time and attention.
John Grant:Even if you can't do an intake pause, I think that you need to be thinking about this notion I talk about of close the closable.
John Grant:Right?
John Grant:How can we reduce the total volume of work that we've committed to so that we are more effectively able to push more things forward more quickly, which over time is going to allow us to handle a greater volume of matters in the long term by focusing on less concurrent things in the short term.
John Grant:And I know I rattled off a lot of podcast episodes at the top of the show.
John Grant:I'm going to give you one more, which is episode five is the place where I talk about this concept of closing the closable.
John Grant:But in the meantime, with respect to the client homework specifically, I'd rather it be stuck in your part of the workflow than in theirs, because now at least you have control over it.
John Grant:And when you do have your capacity free up to be able to give time and attention to that matter, you've got everything you need in order to do it you don't have to engage in the failure demand activities of chasing down this client homework, doing these back and forths, etc.
John Grant:Okay, so that's part one, strategic due dates.
John Grant:Specifically, number one, assign a due date and number two, make it as short as you can get away with with a default of about 3 days.
John Grant:Part 2 of this technique is to be really clear with your client about what the scope of your request is, what is the scope of their work, and you can do this in a few different ways.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:Number one, I think when you're assigning homework, you want to give a really clear sort of punch list of these are the specific things I need you to do.
John Grant:Clear, actionable language where possible, breaking down more complex requests into, you know, discrete phases or tasks, and then I think also describing them to your client in a way or asking for them in a way that is not using a bunch of legalese or jargon or things like that.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:So being really clear that you're trying to reduce their cognitive load by giving them better and more information.
John Grant:Sort of a work breakdown structure, if you're looking at it through the lens of a project manager, so that people know what it is that you're asking them to do, it can be also really helpful to make sure you're clear about what they don't need to do.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:Help them define what's not in scope.
John Grant:Because again, if they don't really have familiarity with the type of thing you're asking them for, they could blow it up in their minds into something that is far bigger than what you actually need.
John Grant:And that is going to add to their procrastination and delay in terms of getting it turned around for you.
John Grant:So being really clear about what needs to happen.
John Grant:And then if there are some things, you know that people sometimes mistakenly think about your particular work or assignment, make sure you let them know what's not in scope, what they don't have to do so they don't make a mountain out of a molehil.
John Grant:Okay, so how do we layer these things together?
John Grant:Going back to the due date question, if you're asking people is it realistic for you to turn this request around in three days and they don't know what the scope is, then they're not going to be all that great at asking themselves or answering that question, is this realistic?
John Grant:But once they know what the scope is, they're going to be better equipped to give you a good answer to that question as opposed to making assumptions or having questions, et cetera.
John Grant:Now, the third Part of this technique, and really it's pretty closely related to the second part, is when you give people this breakdown of what the actual action items are, also try to give them a time estimate.
John Grant:And you can do it a couple of ways, right?
John Grant:Obviously, if you're doing the work breakdown, you can also break down the estimate for how long a particular thing is going to take, right?
John Grant:If you need someone to provide you bank statements, say from their financial accounts, if you're doing, you know, family law or estate planning or any of the practice areas that might need that information, then say, hey, I need you to log into each of your financial accounts and you know, most of them have the ability to download a PDF of your most recent statement or your five most recent statements, whatever you need.
John Grant:And then in parentheses, right?
John Grant:And I'm saying this verbally, parentheses.
John Grant:But for most people this takes about 5 minutes per account or 3 minutes per account or whatever it is.
John Grant:So being able to sort of give those time estimates in context of the work breakdown is really helpful.
John Grant:Also helpful, in fact, possibly more helpful is to give someone a roll up time estimate, right?
John Grant:So for people in your situation, this request typically takes about half an hour or between half an hour and 45 minutes or whatever it happens to be.
John Grant:But you want to be able to let people ask themselves a very specific question when you ask about the turnaround time.
John Grant:So again, I'm going to layer if the question you've asked is is it realistic for you to turn this around in three days?
John Grant:Really what you're asking, once you've given a time estimate and you can even be explicit about this, is do you have an hour to spend on this in the next three days or is there an hour on your schedule that you can devote to this in the next three days?
John Grant:And that's a really good question that people can answer yes or no and they'll be able to tell you whether they can carve out that time.
John Grant:Now obviously you want your time estimates to be realistic.
John Grant:You don't want to go overboard and sort of pad them too long.
John Grant:Because if you say, yeah, do you have six hours in the next three days?
John Grant:Then people are probably going to tell you no.
John Grant:So maybe you need to break the work down, whatever it happens to be.
John Grant:But you get the idea, right?
John Grant:You really want to be clear what needs to happen, how long you think it's going to take, and then that turnaround time is going to be far more actionable for the client.
John Grant:And then also if they say, look, three days isn't reasonable, they're better able to say, when am I going to have three hours to do this?
John Grant:Or when am I going to have the time to do this?
John Grant:And they will negotiate an appropriate due date with you more accurately.
John Grant:So those first three things, that's kind of the first part.
John Grant:Like I said, you can just start with the due dates.
John Grant:But if you use the due dates, the negotiated due dates, the clear definition of scope and a clear time estimate, those are going to be the things that get you the most bang for your buck in changing how you request client information or assign client homework.
John Grant:The rest of these things are kind of add ons that I think over time are going to make this even more efficient, but they're not quite as magical in their own standalone way.
John Grant:They mostly need to be used in connection with these other three techniques.
John Grant:The first one is to provide some orienteering, some navigation as to why this particular assignment or request for information is important to the client.
John Grant:You want to link it to their goals, their objectives for their case, their matter, whatever it is they're trying to accomplish by hiring you to help them with their legal work.
John Grant:And so don't just say, hey, I need all these financial records.
John Grant:Say I need these financial records in order to comply with the initial disclosure requirements of your divorce or to have all the information I need in order to write the draft of your estate plan or whatever it happens to be.
John Grant:But give them the context of what in your process it's needed for and let them understand that there's a little bit of but for causation there.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:If you don't get me your homework, I can't then do the thing I need to do in order to help you.
John Grant:That's in the short term, even more sort of big picture, it can be helpful to tie that specific deliverable to the broader goal, the overall goal.
John Grant:So again, we need to do the initial disclosures in your divorce because that's going to put us in the best position to understand what other discovery we may need to ask for and get us to the point where we can propose a divorce settlement that's going to help you get what you need out of this dissolution in a way that is as speedy as possible while making sure we cover all the bases.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:So not sure if I said that in quite the best way, but I think you get the idea that we really want to tie it to, yes, the short term need the part of your process that you're in, but what is in it for the client, why it's a good idea for them to engage now so that you can more quickly achieve the outcome they're trying to get to in the future.
John Grant:I sometimes talk about this with my clients, about the concept of client engagement.
John Grant:And obviously I'm not talking about the engagement letter, I'm talking about making sure that the client stays connected to their matter, stays engaged with you, and is doing their part of the work so that you can move the whole thing forward.
John Grant:You know, one of the things I certainly found when I was in law practice and a lot of my clients find is that you almost need to be constantly re recruiting the client to be a participant in their own cause.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:There's a mindset where they've hired an attorney and they think you're just going to take care of stuff for them.
John Grant:And that's obviously not realistic for most practice areas.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:Most of the time you're working with them to accomplish a goal, not just sort of taking their load on your back and getting it done.
John Grant:And you want to communicate that clearly and often to your clients.
John Grant:The next thing, sort of number five in this technique that I strongly recommend people work on, it's not as urgent, it's not as impactful as the other things, but I think that it really can be a barrier is to optimize the way that you receive the homework back, make it as simple as possible for the client to get you what you need in a way that makes sense and is easy for them.
John Grant:And the first thing that I will say is that if you are just sending people over a PDF form and asking them to fill it out, especially if it's not a fillable PDF, like that's a really high barrier for people.
John Grant:It makes it complex and complicated to comply with your requests.
John Grant:Even fillable PDFs aren't great, mostly because they don't really work on mobile devices all that well.
John Grant:And so if at all possible, and again, this isn't the first thing to do, but put it in your sort of hopper and think about when you might be able to do something like this.
John Grant:Convert your intake form into an actual online form and you can use Typeform or Jotform or Google Forms or whatever the Microsoft forms is.
John Grant:I forget what they call it, but make it something that people can work through on whatever device they have with them, as opposed to making them print something out and write by hand, or figure out how to type on a PDF or PDF typing tool or again, even fillable PDFs, they're not that great.
John Grant:A lot of document automation software has some of this Built in.
John Grant:So I know Gavel can do this.
John Grant:I think you can do questionnaires and things in hot docs, in docassemble, in laya, which is now, I think, Clio Draft, whatever it happens to be, right.
John Grant:Use your systems to build ways of ingesting information that are going to be simple for the client.
John Grant:If you need actual documents, right?
John Grant:PDFs or scans or whatever, you know, I think it can be useful to invest a little time and energy in making sure that clients can provide those for you in an easy way.
John Grant:And I know some of you just sort of let people snap photos with their phone camera and text them or email them or maybe upload them through a client portal or a form or something.
John Grant:And then, you know, you can turn that image into whatever format you need to.
John Grant:And sometimes that's a way more efficient way, right?
John Grant:You're accepting a little bit more work on your end, but it's in the name of making things easy on the client because you want these things to be in your control.
John Grant:It's a lot more predictable and actionable, even if it's a little bit more work for you or someone on your team if you are going to push it onto the client.
John Grant:I've seen lawyers that have very specific recommendations for scanner apps for the phones, right?
John Grant:Whether it's an iPhone or an Android, things like that.
John Grant:Right.
John Grant:But invest in making it as simple as possible, providing clear direction not just on what the assignment is, but how to comply with the assignment or how to get you the information that you need.
John Grant:The sixth thing, and the last thing for now in this sort of overall technique is all of these things work better, right?
John Grant:Your requests for information work better if you have telegraphed them ahead of time.
John Grant:And this actually segues into another topic that I will do an episode on eventually, but I use it all the time with my clients, which is client journey mapping or client road mapping, right?
John Grant:Setting clear expectations up front about what the process is going to look like.
John Grant:And then whenever possible, indicating the parts of the process where the client is going to need to engage a little bit more, right?
John Grant:When are they going to have things that you need information from them?
John Grant:Highlight that early in the journey, maybe even before intake, before they've signed up with you.
John Grant:Being really explicit about this is what the phases are.
John Grant:And I'm not just going to take your gunny sack of problems and sling it over my back.
John Grant:We're going to unpack your gunny sack and you're going to have some things to do and I'm going to have some things to do and then together we're going to work you towards your goal.
John Grant:All right, so I'm going to wrap this up.
John Grant:How do we put it into practice?
John Grant:Number one, I would say go roughly in the order of the things I've discussed, right?
John Grant:Starting with due dates.
John Grant:Better yet, start with due dates plus a punch list, plus a time estimate.
John Grant:And if you can formulate your request to your clients with those three things, I guarantee you're going to have, number one, faster turnaround time and number two, better accuracy, which ultimately means less failure demand, right?
John Grant:Less need you have to sort of nag people or follow up, and less times that you're going to have to go back to the client because they didn't get it right the first time.
John Grant:I think it can be important, right?
John Grant:Using the Kanban practice of making policies explicit, be really clear that you have a client homework policy and that these are the elements of it.
John Grant:Socialize that.
John Grant:Or better yet, create that policy with your team or let someone on your team sort of take the first stab of engaging the whole practice with that policy and then agree as a team that we're going to try this, we're going to see how it works, we're going to discuss the problems and make tweaks in order to improve how we do client homework.
John Grant:Because all of it right in the vein of continuous improvement is going to help you get your work to flow more smoothly through your entire practice by working at this particular bottleneck.
John Grant:The last thing I'll leave you with is that these techniques are actually really good client experience techniques, right?
John Grant:By being clear that you have a plan, that you have a roadmap, by being clear that you know what the work breakdown structure is, by being clear that you know about how long these things take, you're communicating expertise and experience to your clients in a way that is going to give them a lot more confidence in you.
John Grant:And that confidence is going to engage them, right?
John Grant:They're going to be more likely to listen to what you have to say, to engage with your requests and do the things to sort of make you happy as the expert.
John Grant:Because they're going to trust that your happiness or, you know, your satisfaction, I guess, with their performance is actually going to be a good thing in terms of their longer term goals and objectives with this legal thing, whatever it happens to be, obviously for me, as a process improvement person, I like it because it's going to speed up flow, right?
John Grant:It's going to ultimately reduce in efficiency gains because you're going to have reduced follow up time.
John Grant:The work is going to come back, and once it does come back, hopefully it's going to be in a format that you can really use to then get through your work more efficiently.
John Grant:And that's going to make the whole practice just a lot smoother, a lot more predictable.
John Grant:And that's ultimately what we're going for.
John Grant:All right.
John Grant:As always, if you have specific questions about this or concerns about how it might work in your own practice, I encourage you to reach out to me.
John Grant:I'm happy to bounce these ideas around.
John Grant:You can either contact me through my website, set up a discovery call, or just email me@john grantjilattorney.com and we'll set up a time to sort of run through it.
John Grant:If you find this useful or, you know other attorneys that you think could benefit from this technique, maybe even just people on your team, I encourage you to share this podcast with them.
John Grant:Hopefully they'll find it useful too.
John Grant:And I feel like every podcaster says this, but it really does help other people find this podcast if you take a minute to rate and review me, either on Apple podcasts or on Spotify, because it just helps daylight this for other legal professionals that are looking for operations help.
John Grant:As always, I want to thank my incredible production team over at Digital Freedom Productions and the theme music for this podcast is hello by Lunara.
John Grant:Thanks so much for listening and I will catch you next week.
